"However, this does not mean that you need to cut yourself off from the rest of the world and this form of localism should not be misunderstood for a hipsterist and reactionary form of escapism. Instead, such an approach is quite the opposite as it provides a possibility to actively engage with societal issues. "

I think you'll find that almost every localist tactic dismissed as "hipster" ...
"provides a possibility to actively engage with societal issues"

... and dismissing it as "reactionary" is a PR tactic by those whose financial interests are threatened by DIY ( or 'decommodification') and community supply chains.

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Didn't read it, but their use of "reactionary" paired with "hipster" is bizarre. Reactionaries are conservatives who largely tend to be unsocial -- quite the opposite of hipsters. Even in their niche usage, & privacy abuse is the status quo. Avoiding surveillance capitalism is not reactionary -- it's actually change-seeking progressivism to pimp privacy.

@aktivismoEstasMiaLuo @strypey
But in the good old days, there was less surveillence. So avoiding surveillence is trying to stop and reverse a dangerous new triend that these stupid youngsters created.

@aktivismoEstasMiaLuo @strypey
(speaking in an exaggerated way to demonstrate a potential point of view, which I don't necessarily hold)

Most millennials are naive about privacy & the pitfalls of with a cavalier "I have nothing to hide" attitude. But the older generations are still pushovers far too often. No generation is smart about this to a significant extent.

@aktivismoEstasMiaLuo @strypey
even then, I think resistance to mass surveillance qualifies as resistance to change. And undoing mass surveillance - undoing a change.

@wolf480pl resistence to *anything* counts as "resistance to change", but this has nothing to do with any contemporary definition of "hipster" or "reactionary".


Umm no, resistance to what your parents teach you, or to tradition, are examples of resistance to non-change.

I thought the definition of reactionary is "wanting to bring back the so called good old times", but looks like I was wrong. What is the current definition then?

"As an adjective, the word reactionary describes points of view and policies meant to restore a past status quo."
- Wikipedia, referenced to The New Fontaena Dictionary of Modern Thought Third Edition, (1999) p. 729.

Hipsters are seldom advocates of any status quo, present or past.

Damn, I forgot this was about hipsters. Yeah, you're probably right.

Sure, just like its hard to convince people to use public transport when it's "normal" to drive. Try showing them this:

... possibly followed up with this:

@strypey @gamliel It's your job to pressure FB users. To interact w/ppl on FB is to be an enabler. One person leaving FB entirely somewhat powerful, b/c they then have to reach out to you seperately when making an announcement. They are forced to consider the merit of FB each time. @strypey's links are good but note that it's stallman.org/facebook.html (the trailing slash breaks it)

@aktivismoEstasMiaLuo @strypey "It's your job to pressure FB users". Excuse me, it is naive. If one spits onto the socium, the socium does not sight it. It socium spits onto one, the one drowns.

I installed the "Facebook Container" extension.

#socium #privacy #social #Facebook #browser #Mozilla #Firefox #extension #container #software #freesoftware #FOSS #FLOSS

@gamliel @strypey Are you a free man? Or are you a pushover? It's naive to think your actions can't make a difference. Do you also neglect to vote in elections b/c you're smaller than the population?

@strypey @gamliel You are working against your own interests when you give in to groupthink (wisegeek.com/what-is-groupthin). I had to work with a group of users, & b/c I cannot be coerced to do something unethical, I refused to use FB. Their approach was broken. They had to beak their model & get msgs to me seperately.

@gamliel @strypey The group I was working with then conceded to use Wire instead of FB for communication. It worked b/c I did not underestimate my power as a sole individual.

I had the same experience, refused to use FB since 2010 and finally got some of my family to start using #Wire. In hindsight, I wish I'd chosen #Riot, since Wire have recently set up a US branch to take #VentureCapital, and deprioritized their server<>
server federation plans. @aktivismoEstasMiaLuo @gamliel

@xj9 now I'm fantasizing about an elaborate #MrRobot style hack to take down Farcebook and all its backups in one go, so it can't be restored ;)
@aktivismoEstasMiaLuo @gamliel

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