At this point, I no longer feel it is merely morally permissible to violate copyright, but rather one’s *moral duty* to subvert the vast majority of copyright. “Intellectual property” is a thoroughly disgusting Orwellianism.

We have entered a period where a samizdat underground is necessary to sustain the basic facets of civilization. And public education is a central pillar of the commonweal.

#Torrent every goddam thing.

@Shufei Anything in particular that just disgusted you in regards to copyright?

Personally I'm enjoying & promoting truly independant fiction that isn't relying on at least the worst of these laws. I'm loving what I'm finding!

@alcinnz The copyright cabal going after Internet Archive. Despicable. Absolutely shameful. Libraries should be temples, whether online or off. They should be the centrepiece and pride of our species. Their doors should swing wide open for all comers, both writers and readers. Any society which undercuts the Library has lost the aegis of Heaven.

@Shufei @alcinnz Private property undercuts a lot of things, beyond libraries.

You may think that copyright is terribly unjust. That it creates artificial scarcity and does not reflect the way that cultural works are actually produced. That it props up the fiction of the lone creative producer. And you'd be right.

But in the world as it currently exists practicing civil disobedience against copyright turns out not to be a viable strategy. People tried that in the 2000s and it ended badly. It turns out that to abolish copyright you first must abolish capitalism itself.

@bob @Shufei There's a reason I encourage people to watch others' shows not funded and distributed by capitalists...

I wonder why that has led me to, amongst other things, hearing more anticapitalist themes?

There's and / anti-.

We'd say that 90% of anti-capitalists are actually, anti-corporatist.

Eg. if they could start there own little business, serving people in their community using the skills and passion they have for that venture, they would.

@bob @Shufei

@dsfgs Define things as you will, but at least on the fediverse anti-capitalism appears to mean an opposition to extremely wealthy individuals & corporations.

And both Welcome To Night Vale and The Red Panda Adventures are definitely against extremely wealthy individuals. I might enjoy extracting some quotes soon...

@bob @Shufei

Its not about defining things as we see, we just advocate using the correct words and terminology.

We want people to stay what they mean. If we don't mean (precisely) what we say we will be rejected by the vast majority and get nowhere.

@bob @Shufei

@dsfgs I'm trying to use the terms those I'm discussing with are. And I gather from others that these terms have been redefined from underneath us by the very capitalists we're fighting.

Still I don't know what I'm talking about here, try discussing with, say, @natecull . When I stop seeing "anti-capitalism" being used the way I mean it I'll follow suit.

@bob @Shufei

Okay, but we will say the is not a big subset of people and might attract people on the fringes. *wink*

Maybe we are fringe, but we were doing okay on till we started saying and educating on .

If we want our opinions to be accepted by 93% of society its best to use the correct terms and pinpoint attention on the exact issues.

Yes. , when taken to a particular extreme does stop being capitalism.

@natecull @bob @Shufei


@alcinnz @natecull @bob @Shufei

Maybe didn't like our writings either. It can be hard to tell precisely.

Alas, I can point you to a really interesting called (2014 ). It's short but fits A LOT in and predicts where (the anonymity of a corporate state being in control). We'd be interested in your thoughts on some of the predictions, if ypu have the chance to watch it.

Sorry we don't have a URL on hand.

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