@jiaming I'm watching you.

From far.

Without infriging any privacy of yours.

I can decode any cyber-geopolitical block plans thanks to my analysis methodology.

I can smell the influence of any agency with their private hidden cyber-geopooitical agenda.

Rust is NOT the answer.

It's a far from perfect patch.

Of similar kind than bitcoin and blockchains are.

This being said, let's talk.

cc @theruran

@jiaming Please answer one question :

What is, according to you, the most important architectural or conceptual variable constraint so that a cyberspace concept and architecture can serv all the people of the world equaly and fairely.

Thank you.

We won't be friends until you give at least an original answer of yours.

cc @theruran

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@stman Language. Every child should be able to use and learn technologies *completely* in their own language, then have a pathway into developing with at least a language that is substantially similar to their native language.

Until the day English is no longer a monopoly of our computational ideas, cyberspaces cannot truly realize the immense diversity of people.

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@jiaming Theruran @theruran : So what's your feeling about this new contact ? Shall we spend more time discussing our research work with this contact ? I'm not quite convinced we should, unless this person does another try and this time doing some more efforts to answer the question a bit more convincingly.

@stman Your @ tag messed up so I just saw this come across my home feed.

@jiaming is new in the fedi and probably hasn't seen our conversations about cyberspace architectures. And I like his answer about language... every text symbol should be localized. It's like your sociologist friend's answer about a universal translator.

@jiaming - Rust won't solve the architectural problems we're discussing, but then, I haven't seen a language that does. I'm sure you recognize that too - that it's less bad than C/C++. The most promising ones are still new/experimental: F* (FStar) and Cur (on Racket).

Really what we need is systems design of a programming language. I'll have to spec out at least some of it for my research.

@jiaming You can do better. Some other contributors to our small group already more or less answered what you said, so this answer is not enough to convince our small group to share more with you. We are obliged to make some kind of quick selection in order not to loose our time with saboters of our researches. There are many aspects to the question that was asked to you. Find another one and deepen, free style.

Our group is working on alternative cyberspaces concepts

@jiaming and architectures.

We're a small group of crypto-anarchists alternative cyberspaces and digital systems theoricians & researchers.

We don't bite, but we select our contributors.

Through something to impress us !
And we will impress you back !

@jiaming @stman
I've learned more about the real requirements of supporting diversity in messaging and networks from a friend's effort to build something for his Lakota community than I have from 25 years of studying different approaches to cross-cultural communication (and discarding approaches that I found to be paternalistic)

@50htz You still know nothing about what we are doing. We are not against diversity. Why don't you try to answer the question too ? @jiaming The question I asked you is one of the most important thing that motivates us. What else can I tell you : Give it another try.

Tips : We work from new concepts and architectures from scratch. So don't be afraid to talk freely about anything you think could meet the question, the way you want, free style.

@stman hmm on the more architectural side, I'm thinking along the lines of Free Software but going all the way to hardware. To achieve real fully free and decentralised systems...

I'm thinking it has to be such that anything executed on it can be verified (formally, because decentralized) as proof for the user. And such that its freedom cannot be revoked.

But the problem here comes from hardware, since you can't verify physical reality, and hardware has to be distributed through that medium...

@jiaming @stman There must be a lower limit to the feature size - that makes it both economical to produce and verifiable for someone with the right equipment in their garage.

Check out the betrusted.io they talk a bit about it.

But yes! Formal verification all-the-things~

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