This instance is a place to plan and talk about direct action in a practical ways, yes we can wax philosophical at times which is fine but in the end it comes back to real people doing real things on real ground to affect real power relationships. To work towards a more "horazontal" world for everyone and everything.
You can't shoot um, you can't get them to do what needs doing. You just have to muddle through doing the wrong thing.
You will be shot, If you don't do what they say.
You have no choice but to do the wrong thing.
Organise a focus group to see what people need. Then do what the funders tell you to do.
The wrong thing gets done.
This is our current choice. Ideas to think better?
Nice to see the archive of the news site I was a co-founder of is still online https://oxford.indymedia.org.uk/
The recent experience in the #indymedia reboot, trying to cross the geek/academic/media producer/process devid reminded me of one of the core resions indymedia failed, because of a clear seperation between the geeks and the process and the media producers. It failed because of a lack of bridges between these different groups. Really it was a lack of interest so each group ossidyed and broke with the need to bend the project in the direction the world was going. This then broke the project.
It goes back to how #NewYork itself was largely built with #Mafia connections, and their ability to #exploitMigrantLabour. This collision continues into today and is why #democracy in #planning is so important.
He points to how industry is encouraged to #waste due to govts giving #taxBreaks and other #perks for #newBuilds, rather than encouraging #developers to #refurbish or #renovate existing #heritage and #realEstate.
if you are intrested in talking about a #indymedia reboot http://pad.openworlds.info/mypads/?/mypads/group/omn-enz5xff/pad/view/indymedia-m633xi7 and makeing it happen.
Looking to do affective actavisam.
Academic historys of our movements are not very useful as they are strongly second hand sources mostly from #fashernistas
We need more minoraty views from participants. For my view this will reveal open/closed and process/serendipity that is at the hart of the actavist debates. For eample #indymedia in my view started open/serendipity and died closed/bureaucratic. A simple story to base a reboot on.
#4opens is a good process to mediate this problem.
Looking at social change in liberated spaces http://hamishcampbell.com/index.php/2013/08/26/balcombe-anarchist-and-conservative/ #antifracking #RCP #balcombe
How i got involved in #indymedia and a positive view of grassroots media http://hamishcampbell.com/index.php/2013/04/01/good-activist-media/
A draft history of the internet http://hamishcampbell.com/index.php/2012/08/31/a-political-history-of-the-internet/
http://hamishcampbell.com/index.php/2019/12/01/20-years-of-indymedia/ 20 years of indymedia
- George Monbiot on the Climate Election: “The Most Important Issue on Planet Earth” https://www.doubledown.news/watch/2019/28/november/george-monbiot-on-the-climate-election-the-most-important-issue-on-planet-earth
Wish i had known about the APC event https://crm.apc.org/civicrm/event/info as these guys have a progressive view of how the internet was created - that is different to the mainstream dismpowing view of the military industrial complex and social control. They played a core role in the creation... not something you hear often. I got this story from greennet in London one of the founding members of APC
This tweet is such a great example of how companies like Tesla actively shape and limit our ability to imagine the future. Instead of extensive high speed rail networks and walkable cities, this twitter user is imagining a future where we must decide between two stupid trucks. https://twitter.com/dcurtis/status/1198704816609988608