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Working on look and feel for activitypub based reboot. The user experience is interesting and hard to think through as everything about it is lose network of flows. Publishing/reading/moderation are all readicaly federated. Each part is a view, the one thing that is easey is the old idea of a silo news site which is the morning paper to pick up and read. Though the majority of the news flows will be read in other places :) the site is a silo (for legacey view) a hub to control flows.

Ones you start to understand that the majority of news flows will be read off site. The site it self has two functions: a legacy function as a news site/aggregator.The second more interesting is as a metadata hub and flow shifter worked on by an editorial affinity group. The publish function is a option and could/should be turned off in bigger sites.

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by turn off publishing I mean turn off direct publishing to the site newswire, people can still "publish" to the site by activertypub and the site editorial collective can still wright and publish features wrightern from the aggregated newswire flows. Its hard to think this process through but should work fine when it gets to be a "normal" way of working.

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Changing workflows is a hard social thing to do but ones the shift has happened it becomes easy. Moving to trust based radically decentralized/federated work flow. Publishing, moderating, shaping flows by adding metadata. Affinity group organizing across trust based networks is a head fuck that technology will have to unblock and support at every step.

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@witchescauldron
Does a site in this context _only_ display it's own content?

If yes, then I can agree the default should be not to publish as it encourages it to become a silo.

If no, and it is itself aggregating and publishing other content, then arguably it would be a reasonable default for the site to be public.

Correct me if I'm misinterpretting something

@msaunders foundation sites are sources, middle sites are aggregators, headline sites are link silos. In this the value is added at the bootem and clinks and links flow from the top directly to the bootem. Its data soup and sites are just laddles.

@msaunders sites are views on the data flow, your experience of a site would be dipping a ladeal into the data soup and coming out with a relevant tasty meal of "news". in this every site is a place to "add ingredence" as editorial features based on newswire posts at the middle and top level with a few newswire posts were relvent and at the bootem newswire posts and local features. And a place to consume the nourishing "news".

@msaunders the hard thing to get is that its all flows - the is little static about it. With news when its over it drops off the bootem of the page. Yesterdays paper youtube.com/watch?v=HMCYOYVidK for a patriarchal metaphor. We are more "ethical" than this in that the features link back. and the hashtags create subject flows.

@msaunders the sites are all public - except for the moderation wire. Nothing is behind a login but DM's and as little admin as we can get away with.

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