if programmers spent as much time programming as we do arguing about programming languages, would we understand programming?

one thing i've thought a lot lately kind of boils down to: programming languages suck, and arguing about them is fun (well, maybe it's just perverse after a while, but i try not to kinkshame and anyway it _starts out_ fun), and they're a lot of the material we have to work with, so it's natural to argue about them.

but actually: past a certain baseline of technical capability, programming languages aren't really the problem with software.

in a narrow technical sense, we had _most_ of what it takes to make good software decades ago.

what we lacked then (and have built something almost like a perfect defense against now) are the ways to deal well with power relations, money/resources, freedom, responsibility, and basic human decency - within all of which software has become profoundly enmeshed for all of civilization, in ways that most of programmer culture really doesn't know how to address.

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@brennen we need "governance" of the for the web by the web otherwise it will be imposed on us.

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