Am PUSHING a grassroots DIY aproch, starting with composting the #techshit using the #4opens here https://unite.openworlds.info/Open-Media-Network/4opens/wiki then letting people build out what they need here https://unite.openworlds.info/Open-Media-Network/openwebgovernancebody/wiki/01.-Online-Governance
In this PUSH, a soft social path #DIY, not a pre-existing idea. There are better outcomes from this, BUT only if a group of people take the path together.
Real social change/challenge needs groups of people to get off their knees and stop worshipping the #deathcult who is up from this :)
The culture of "hackers of yore" were the problem, the #geekproblem
The projects all DIED when the geeks took control of the foundations and the #fashernista took control of the facared.
The #OGB is a project to mediate the current mess for better social/challenge based society. The "common sense" approach of solving the mess is a fantasy, composting is a slow organic process, technical fixes are often fantasy, and is this case obviously fail.
@satur we are going to be looking for a funded developer for this project if the funding comes through https://unite.openworlds.info/Open-Media-Network/openwebgovernancebody/wiki/02.-Tech-Spec find out in the next month, please pass on to any one you think might be compatible/interested in this #4opens project.
YOU can't do social change/challenge without annoying people. If you think you can, you are most likely play-acting and thus a part of the problem - douse that annoy you if it does you are likely a part of the problem :)
food for thought, a tool for composting #4opens
You do understand that the #deathcult will become more visible over the next few years, neo-liberalism might be over, the social poison will continue to kill and displace millions of people, stating out there but rapidly happening here as well.
We URGENTLY need to step away from this mess.
Judge social/tech projects by the #4opens and WALK away from ones that fail, do this over the next weeks don't wait till next year.
Stopping the poison is key.
The open/closed debate is a hard one, it should not be, but it still is. The cult of personality is the left getting lost in the right agenda... this is a hard one, too. I like the #4opens for the first and the second build from the roots, the first waters this growth, likely why it keeps being #BLOCKED
Open/closed as useful metaphor, judge projects and orgs by the #4opens is a good first step https://unite.openworlds.info/Open-Media-Network/4opens/issues
The is an unpleasant "won't to fail" stream in our "community" that needs some challenge.
On https://unite.openworlds.info all the activities are in the wikis and the wiki changes don't show on the activerystreams so it looks like nothing is happening.
Much of the widely grouped people working on the projects do this off-site so it looks like one account is publishing all the updates.
Little I personally can do about these "defaults" anyone won't to help fix this #4opens fail?
Q. What social group are you working with to build this code? If this is only the individual or a small geek group the coding is very likely pointless, if it is a #NGO group likely pointless due to burocratic/top-down process leading to the low user expectations.
This is the problem, not the solution.
These people are adding to the #techshit shifting the focus to pointlessness. But they were "our" people at one time.
#OGB The current plan is #4opens to build a production/coding team, go for funding, expanding the coding team, build the tools, test the tools, roll out this test to a real user base - likely not the #Fediverse to test. While these last stages are happening, we can try and ratify it though some process on socialhub or just roll it out #permissionless and see if people use it, both are fine by me.
Most good software tech value is in the social "use" the technical codeing it self has little value, the are huge piles of decaying code with little "use" value.
The #geekproblm is that this "value" is invisible to the people codeing that then end up adding more churn to the techshit pile.
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