Q. Also that whatever process people use, it needs to work in the mess.
A. In tech outreach work using the hashtag #geekproblem to highlight the “need for control” that is a clear block and not a solution to the very human mess we are in. We need to build structers/code where we “lose” control of our current #mainstreaming agenders and take “control” by building bridges and holding these human bridges in place, so we can choose different paths.
The #geekproblem is a general issue of misunderstanding of “total control” and what it is to be human. The #encryptionists are an example of this, that have been dominate for the last 10 years, the solution to everything is “privacy” “lock down” isolated individualism, me only me “no such thing as society only individuals and their family’s”.
The need for control and security is at the base of our #geekproblem culture, it is an inhumane outcome, code should always be messy as should our society.
There are world view gaps that make this a hard bridge to hold in place.
Example Diaspora and RSS based networks - the young Turks did a CLOSED network and shouted down the existing OPEN networks... 10 years go by, and we have to reinvent RSS+ as #activertpub to launch open networks - talking about examples like this when i talk about the #geekproblem and #encrypinists
The 10 years that is missing is the problem.
What people likely hear beers little relation to what am saying.
AP by going the “standards root” made it out of this mess and gained a wide user base of “cats” and increasingly normal human beings.
In this history on balance, we “failed” as much as they seceded.
On the subject of the #geekproblem yes we need social understanding of technology - all code is ideology solidified and put into motion to have a social affect.
Currently, often the "ideology" is little more than the #deathcult hidden by "kind words" - this is always a bad thing, and a very common bad thing.
From a few years ago:
Not for the first time and likely not the last time. Misunderstanding of what am saying/talking about. To be clear the #geekproblem is complex in that its at root a unhealthy/inhuman desire for total control.
The federated model is both pandering to the problem, here have control and diluting the problem by spreading it thinly and then turning it into vapour #4opens ie. It's a kind of step away if you understand the problem is there to stepaway from 🙂
Its more complex than good/bad
#geekproblem the desire to control
#fahernisat the desire to belong
#dotcon the desire to be rich
Desire is a human thing that can be healthy and unhealthy. I think the is a common understanding of the problem with geeks. Fashion is a bedrock of capital driven consumerism, as is the desire to be rich.
The interesting/powerful thing is to call people and groups out from their unhealthy desires.
And in reaction nurture good desires.
Think the thing that courses the tech churning is a lack of respect for joined up social thinking in the #geekproblem world view. This tiny minority think they can invent from their limited social experience and ignore the wider social context and history of radical movements. This is why the work that come from this always fails humane agenders and thus feeds the dominant pointlessness.
Thinking about the #geekproblem from a progressive history in the Soviet Union we had a control and fear based economic syteam so its important that we don't blindly go down the same path. Need to think that defending agenst control is simply a reflection of control. Its #mainstreming to blindly go down this path, we do need to do something else as the soviet syteam was not that "progressive" and suggesting #4opens as a better path out of our current mess.
From 3 years ago:
Its interesting we are seeing two sides to the #openweb reboot.
You have the old:
1) The #geekproblem of the old alt-web keeps pushing it self into the new open, muddying the waters.
2) The #encryptionists are still there but doing a whole parallel project that is shrinking.
1) The new UI/openstandards apps are expanding drawing in new "virgin" users.
2) We have confusion and scaling issues, not a bad thing.
Lets not drag the new back to the old please.
This is an interesting expirence for us https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/en/news/ovh-fire-while-police-investigate-cause-ovhcloud-promises-free-backups-future/ we lost our #xmpp chat server in this fire.
Makes me think about the project and the #geekproblem that has blocked the last 10 years of rollout. Our #OMN plan has ALWAYS been home hosting of our content. BUT this has been BLOCKED due to security issues that to me are beyond pointless - looking at this fire you can kinda see the point in my view. Beyond pointless...
https://twobithistory.org/2018/05/27/semantic-web.html at the #OMN we are building a "stupid" grassroots version of the #semanticweb based on "trust" and affinity. The most important value is #KISS
To support this server and the OMN project https://opencollective.com/open-media-network