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Talking about the #geekproblem as a part of UI and UX https://librelounge.org/episodes/38-user-interfaces-with-m%C3%A1ir%C3%ADn-duffy.html
The #geekproblem and #fashernistas are both social groups we have to move aside from #OMN if we are to have hope for technical social change #xkcd
The #OMN is a simple project to decisively move power from the #geekproblem and the #dotcons to the producers of media content. From this grasssroots “commons” a new digital/economic/social ecosystem can/will grow.
As with everything human it is up to use what we do with this power.
The #openweb is simple, just html5 linking to html5 with a sprinkling of CSS they are all text formats that humans can kinda read. Its what the #dotcons have built on top to control us is the complex bit. Then the is #geekproblem of our #opensource apps that we need to move beyond as well #OMN
Q. > #geekproblem the desire to control
Control what?
A. this is an intresting one. Lets try an example: the idea that "you wont somebody else to build it" unconsciously puts all responsibility in the "geeks" hands were the idea, the ui, the look and feel and the process that we are setting out to solve is not given balence in the cooperative work for the desired outcome. Think that not a bad example of the #geekproblem that geeks refuse to look at the problem... rinse and repeat.
Not for the first time and likely not the last time. Misunderstanding of what am saying/talking about. To be clear the #geekproblem is complex in that its at root a unhealthy/inhuman desire for total control.
The federated model is both pandering to the problem, here have control and diluting the problem by spreading it thinly and then turning it into vapor #4opens ie. Its a kind stepaway if you understand the problem is there to stepaway from :)
Q. Now, will you kindly define your adversaries, so I could learn who are the bad guys?
A. Its more complex than good/bad
#geekproblem the desire to control
#fahernisat the desire to belong
#dotcon the desire to be rich
Desire is a human thing that can be healthy and unhealthy. I think the is a common understanding of the problem with geeks. Fashion is a bedrock of capital driven consumerism, as is the desire to be rich.
What are hastags, click on one and see:
#omn
#openweb
#activitypub
#stepaway
#4opens
#geekproblem
#fashernista
#dotcons
#failbook
Time for the semantic web? That's the #OMN project from the bottom up. Most semantic web projects are top down and pure #geekproblem :) make the right choice.
Found a circle on the #openweb talking about the #geekproblem the issue at the hart of the problem is that geeks can't see the problem. Go round a few circals with them and arrive no nearer them seeing the problem.
Q. What is the geek problem?
http://hamishcampbell.com/index.php/2020/03/12/the-currency-of-the-21st-century-is-information/ talking to the #geekproblem is needed if we are to save what remains of the #openweb
Problem terms #geekproblem a teenage mix of arrogance and ignorance that is pretty universal and #dotcons a self interested pushing of greed over human need. All basic stuff that it's good to have an opinion on and would definitely be a bad thing not to have an opinion on ;)
The #geekproblem fight between open/closed is a dangerous game of figleaf. Media is always done in the open so trying to secure and close this is completely self defeating. In social networks its more complex, privacy is open is sudo anonymous at best. In closed in theory you can have secure p2p connections l, but for 99.9% of people running on standard corporate hardwere the is no way to trust this so agen sudo anonymous. So technology could be "secure" for .001% of people maybe.
A lot of the more tech minded run workshops on campining on #dotcons as our ones healthy #openweb tools were ripped apart by the #geekproblem
You guys need to get busy with spades to compost the shit you spread around in the digital world. And spreading more shit just makes the alt a more smelly uninvited.
I put up with years of trolling on this subject. it's a good time to balance this and for the first time do something useful #omn
Some counter intuitive thinking:
The fedivers has little original in the code bases, they are rebuilds of existing #dotcons this is a part of why it grew, when all the other #geekproblem projects withered.
With this in mind we reboot a #grassroots successful project https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Media_Center (not the best history of the project but it's what we have) taking into account why it died and why it worked.
If we build in automation then we will have lots of middling quality sites that are borderline usefull. A signal to noise issue. The will be less motivation to spesherlise and the network will likly fail becouse of this.
less is more is a core of the project. The #geekproblem is the desire to improve the network with better tools ;)
"A look at the #geekproblem
In the alt tech, everything is broken. At the heart of this is an assumption that control and certainty are needed for good software. Were in reality software matches the human condition of transentery/lossy. Trying to force the first ideal is why most of our alt projects do not work. This is the base of the #geekproblem "
looking back at #indymedia video the outcome of all this http://web.archive.org/web/20110920222307/https://docs.indymedia.org/Global/DiyMediaLabs was largly woffal and hot air.
Our history is poorly told.
Looking back at the hitory of video #indymedia the documentation is deeply #fashernista and had heaps of #geekproblem in it http://web.archive.org/web/20110121132854/https://docs.indymedia.org/Global/VideoActivismFAQ
The #geekproblem has strong blocking energy on radical tech.
Ideas/strategies to mediate/overcome this unspoken block?
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