one thing to keep in mind, I think we/indymedia crew learned the wrong lesson from these raids/repression.

We pushed fear/control as a solution, which added to the mess

As the shows, open/trust was the path we should have taken

This ripped the project apart, leaving us in this mess.

When making judgments, let's be , to see through the mess.

Shovels and compost

We have a test, if you can't find your way into the project by following then you are likely not much use to the project, or to humain society in general.

Asking questions on what you find from following the hashtag is VERY much incuraged. Every journey starts with a step.

You will likely need a shoval and it helps to feel welcome in the

The wrong people always push for the "top" the social mess is feed by this pushing of shit.

Look carefully at who WONTS to lead society.

You need a shoval

Looking at our current mess, holding a shoval. Am seeing more than 99% of people have swallowed the pill of and this still strongly shapes their agenda.

We need to compost this shit, ideas?

We all face a simple choice, Revolution or the you can already see building around you. Yes at the moment it's a choice... But one or the other is coming... Likely both at the same time if you dither. Ideas for a better outcome please

Am kinda realizing that the do not have a clue to the value of the project, as its value is outside their narrow value set. They are blind and to cape this they have NO motivation to see, what to do with this mess?

In the the are shaping young people so that they know nothing but worshiping the it's a shit heap mess that needs composting. You need a shoval

The is a advantage with running on "no money" the projects have been running on practically nothing for 10 years - this is a strength, as well as a limitation.

Have seen so meany radical open projects fail from NGO funding models. It's been a shit storm of pointlessness for more than 20 years. We need to stop doing this.

"collectivism is the tool to destroy the disease of neo liberalist individualism." Yep, it's the balance that is out at mo, to meany zombies of both the left and the right. We are building a network of online tools for this its use them or be eaten by the zombies, simple choice.

The right wing are making good use of the tools, were the left wing are beyond useless in their take-up of this power for social challenge/change

At the We are about composting the mess... Currently the is way to much shit flowing to grow the change we need. This is both a local and a global issue.

We need fresh tech/ideas.

"With solidarity largely a thing of the past, it is vital the left reclaim it as a way of organising in order to successfully resist capitalism."

This is the thing I found to be on rolling out visionon.tv and development of and finally it completely lacking for the reboot.

How to rebuild this thing we have all lost, likely getting people off the of the and the older generations off would be a good first step.

The is a simple project to decisively move power from the and the to the producers of media content. From this grasssroots “commons” a new digital/economic/social ecosystem can/will grow.

As with everything human it is up to use what we do with this power.

The is a simple project to decisively move power from the and the to the producers of media content. From this grasssroots “commons” a new digital/economic/social ecosystem can/will grow.

As with everything human it is up to use what we do with this power.

spent the last few months putting bridges in place, but everyone just keeps wondering off so then spend lots of time trying to hold the bridges from falling down... goda get some self standing bridges with soled foundations :) am very happy with visionon.tv at mo

Our powerlessness feeds our desire to hate, which is why controversy driven are such a problem as they feed and feed off both problems. It's a good business model but bad for us and our environment.
We need to step away from this mess

To solve our "governance" issues we need to take/give "ownership" of our projects to a "messy" thus human community that actually brings the "value" to the projects.

Without this "democratic" instinct we are lost in a shit heap of power politics feeding which then feedbacks back into

This circle in praying to the we all do this and some of us need to stop doing this

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