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OK am starting to feel like am trolling "Reimagine the Internet" as its all academic and #dotcons history.

The same people and the same story we have heard for the last wasted 10 years.

Nothing so far touching on the #Fediverse let alone the #openweb.

It's off TOPIC I feel like shouting though out the oneway ZOOM video presentation - you can find their video's on youtube.

After proding they are talking about putting them on #peertube ;)

http://hamishcampbell.com/2021/03/05/at-the-omn-we-have-a-number-of-openweb-tools-for-you-to-use/ At the #OMN we have a number of #openweb tools for you to use

The key strength of this governance model is that its #permissionless in this it mirrors one of the strengths of the #Fediverse you do not have to ask permission to start an instance #justdoit in the same way you start a governance body https://unite.openworlds.info/Open-Media-Network/openwebgovernancebody/wiki/Online-governance- its native to the #openweb out of the box #4opens

Think this is the 3ed rejection for the FOSS project #indymediaback that has been rejected, and I was very NGO friendly polite. No biting was involved, yet...

"Submitted to foss-north 2021 has been updated.

Unfortunately, we have not been able to accept this session. We
do hope to see you at foss-north 2021 regardless!"

As am sure some of you likely have an idea these events are less #openweb than their outreach texts - just look at who sponsors them if you need to.

We live in a pile of tech shit - pretending it's all OK is the problem not the solution. it's not OK and the is a lot of shit shovelling needed to make compost to plant #openweb seeds.

Do you remember when all our #encryptionist #geekproblem crew were recommending we used #VPN 's then this is a good video to watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVDQEoe6ZWY never trust these crew please.

Vote #openweb

Upload a PDF "No, I think not."

Trying to upload a formatted text doc to a #openweb project.

"Needs a settings change, and then its possible. But it is disabled by default, because people might upload malicious PDF’s, so there’s that."

OK that raise the question of what is a good UX safe non #dotcons formatted text document. And why after 20 years of #openweb dev do I have to even ask this question. This second point is likely the more interesting one to try and ansear.

Our current language does not communicate - so lets try some new metaphors.

* I like "mess" as a metaphor for human degradation and ecological devastation.

* #deathcult is the last 40 years of neo-liberalism that is the invisible #mainstreaming in everything we touch.

* On a positive note "shit" makes good compost, and compost is good for nurturing growth.

* "shovels" are the digital tools we build on the #openweb

Hope the footnotes help ;)

http://hamishcampbell.com/2021/03/15/that-would-be-a-battle-worth-of-a-saga/ the fight for the #openweb could be a battle worthy of a saga.

If you are interested in recent #openweb history that touches on the ideology of different groups in the #activitypub world https://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/entry/335 you can ignore the subject if its distasteful and just look at the tech politics.

The #dotcons are pure undiluted #deathcult

The #openweb is like herding cats and when you work hard and scratch the surface you find the #deathcult just the same.

We can't keep doing this, please try not to push #mainstreaming agenders as the current outcome is BAD, and we need to try and make things better.

The #openweb has a fatal case of “herding cats” with its development and agender being pushed by #fashionista #encryptionist #geekproblem and #process

AP by going the “standards root” made it out of this mess and gained a wide user base of “cats” and increasingly normal human beings.

In this history on balance, we “failed” as much as they seceded.

From 3 years ago:

Its interesting we are seeing two sides to the #openweb reboot.

You have the old:

1) The #geekproblem of the old alt-web keeps pushing it self into the new open, muddying the waters.

2) The #encryptionists are still there but doing a whole parallel project that is shrinking.

The new:

1) The new UI/openstandards apps are expanding drawing in new "virgin" users.

2) We have confusion and scaling issues, not a bad thing.

Lets not drag the new back to the old please.

Our end plan in the #OMN is that all the content is redundantly stored in the network in a #KISS way, so traditional backup is less important -when it goes wrong, and it will sometimes as we are home hosting. Just boot up a new noid put your hashtags and user info in and all your content will be sucked back in a #lossy good anufe way. This makes home hosting work well enough to scale outward to build a #openweb

The state is full of monsters.

In closed the monsters can plot and destroy/divide are control because the is no way to make a judgment you cannot have social "truth"

With open the monster are more obverse and much easy to trip up. As social "truth" is all around you.

Closed breeds monsters/open pushes them into the shadows.

We need to compost a lot of closed crap #openweb

What am trying to say is lets setup things that "look like power but aren't power" and then get on with what we all wont the lovely messy job of compost and shit and seeds and plants that make up the #openweb grow the future.

A world of data https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJklHwoYgBQ&t=1s shit makes good compost, lets grow a #openweb world ;)

A post from a self-confessed tech "jerk" on how we got into this mess https://scobleizer.blog/2012/02/04/its-too-late-for-dave-winer-and-john-battelle-to-save-the-common-web/ kinda funny building a following in google+ And yes we did lose this battle in 2008 and the last 10 years of #openweb tech dev is a pile of stinking #techshit maybe it's time for composting? Do you need a shovel #OMN

Long ago view of failed #openweb projects https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Offline_TV the #PCF and there democracy Player are a very good example to look at this process.

The is a VERY long list of failed #openweb projects lets start to look at a few http://scripting.com/stories/2010/08/27/aNoteAboutDiaspora.html